Telegram is Shit, What about Signal?

[NerdRat Hispagatos]

The current events regarding telegram, the "sorry that's so late" awareness
regarding privacy issues with the most used and widespread messaging
technologies, has brought the question: what am i going to use then?

This week telegram has proven by itself exactly what it was, is, and
will be, and more:

https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/23/telegram_tcs_suspect_info/

So you know how why corporates are liars.

But what about Signal? The lemmy creator has a BIG point in this document:

https://dessalines.github.io/essays/why_not_signal.html

And i seriously think we should stop playing the "this is less bad, so i
am adopting it" mindset, and thoroughly review applications from their
inception and who is behind before putting any information that could
vulnerate our rights.

[Cuaimito]

Post by NerdRat Hispagatos
The current events regarding telegram, the "sorry that's so late"
awareness regarding privacy issues with the most used and widespread
messaging technologies, has brought the question: what am i going to use
then?
This week telegram has proven by itself exactly what it was, is, and
https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/23/telegram_tcs_suspect_info/
So you know how why corporates are liars.
https://dessalines.github.io/essays/why_not_signal.html
And i seriously think we should stop playing the "this is less bad, so i
am adopting it" mindset, and thoroughly review applications from their
inception and who is behind before putting any information that could
vulnerate our rights.

All this information is really interesting. Thank you very much.

[rek2 hispagatos]

Post by Cuaimito

Post by NerdRat Hispagatos
The current events regarding telegram, the "sorry that's so late"
awareness regarding privacy issues with the most used and widespread
messaging technologies, has brought the question: what am i going to use
then?
This week telegram has proven by itself exactly what it was, is, and
https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/23/telegram_tcs_suspect_info/
So you know how why corporates are liars.
https://dessalines.github.io/essays/why_not_signal.html
And i seriously think we should stop playing the "this is less bad, so i
am adopting it" mindset, and thoroughly review applications from their
inception and who is behind before putting any information that could
vulnerate our rights.

All this information is really interesting. Thank you very much.

is all Bull shit. dont trust what regular people says in stupid reddit
is why people were using telegram in the first place while we were
saying for years IT was shit.

go ahead and trust reddit LOL LOL Spanish people we are retarded always
believen non-sense still of fatcs.

[Zapatos]

On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 13:41:15 -0000 (UTC)

Post by rek2 hispagatos

El Tue, 24 Sep 2024 16:19:22 -0000 (UTC), NerdRat Hispagatos

Post by NerdRat Hispagatos
The current events regarding telegram, the "sorry that's so late"
awareness regarding privacy issues with the most used and
widespread messaging technologies, has brought the question: what
am i going to use then?
This week telegram has proven by itself exactly what it was, is,
https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/23/telegram_tcs_suspect_info/
So you know how why corporates are liars.
https://dessalines.github.io/essays/why_not_signal.html
And i seriously think we should stop playing the "this is less
bad, so i am adopting it" mindset, and thoroughly review
applications from their inception and who is behind before putting
any information that could vulnerate our rights.

All this information is really interesting. Thank you very much.

is all Bull shit. dont trust what regular people says in stupid reddit
is why people were using telegram in the first place while we were
saying for years IT was shit.
go ahead and trust reddit LOL LOL Spanish people we are retarded
always believen non-sense still of fatcs.

"To use the Signal desktop app, Signal must first be installed on your
phone."

https://signal.org/download/linux/

I don't use a phone for any kind of important communication. Not going
to install an app on my phone just to enable a desktop app. No way.

I refused to get a smartphone for over a decade until my new job
required me to have one. I eventually quit that job and got rid of the
phone. Screw mobile phones!

[rek2 hispagatos]

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Post by Zapatos
On Wed, 25 Sep 2024 13:41:15 -0000 (UTC)
I don't use a phone for any kind of important communication. Not going
to install an app on my phone just to enable a desktop app. No way.
I refused to get a smartphone for over a decade until my new job
required me to have one. I eventually quit that job and got rid of the
phone. Screw mobile phones!

I agree, phones are for regular people that does not know how to use a
real computer, my opinions regarding signal vs telegram are not as in
which is just better, that obviosly signal is much better in privacy but
not even near of real privacy software but my opinion was of people
using whatsup and having an opinion on the matter, a lot of People in
Spain use whatsup "because every one uses it" I myself, do not use it,
so I found signal to be the ONLY software regular ignorant folks are willing to
have, if it was not for signal a person like me that have lots of
friends on different continents that are not hackers nor privacy
advocates, I will be in 0 contact with any of them because I refuse to
use whatsup, facebook, instagram and the likes, my mother and some family
included, and I know a lot of other people aware of the situation are in
our toes, I can use privacy and secure programs with other hackers, unix
folks and old school people that knows their shit, what signal does is
allows us to have some sort of contact with normal family and friends
with out like "others do" go to the worse of all and use
whatsup/telegram/facebook and the likes...
one thing is to know what is better and another for it to be useful with
out having to compromise 100%, easy to say signal may be better than
telegram but is still not good, then that same people have whatsup,
intagram, uses their phone as a computer and such... those are the ones against
I am speaking to.

Happy Hacking
ReK2

[killab33z]

Post by rek2 hispagatos

Post by Cuaimito

Post by NerdRat Hispagatos
The current events regarding telegram, the "sorry that's so late"
awareness regarding privacy issues with the most used and widespread
messaging technologies, has brought the question: what am i going to
use then?
This week telegram has proven by itself exactly what it was, is, and
https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/23/telegram_tcs_suspect_info/
So you know how why corporates are liars.
https://dessalines.github.io/essays/why_not_signal.html
And i seriously think we should stop playing the "this is less bad, so
i am adopting it" mindset, and thoroughly review applications from
their inception and who is behind before putting any information that
could vulnerate our rights.

All this information is really interesting. Thank you very much.

is all Bull shit. dont trust what regular people says in stupid reddit
is why people were using telegram in the first place while we were
saying for years IT was shit.
go ahead and trust reddit LOL LOL Spanish people we are retarded always
believen non-sense still of fatcs.

I totally agree that it's all bull shit. Both Telegram and Signal
Messenger are total shit!

[Otto J. Makela]

Post by rek2 hispagatos

Post by NerdRat Hispagatos
https://dessalines.github.io/essays/why_not_signal.html

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Post by rek2 hispagatos
is all Bull shit. dont trust what regular people says in stupid reddit
is why people were using telegram in the first place while we were
saying for years IT was shit.

I do think Dessalines makes some very good points about the problems
of Signal, specially the way it is even now tied into phone numbers.